fao: andy tyrrell

[SkimmedMilk]

and why are they seeking asylum? cos of us and other western governments greedy, hipodritical foriegn policies.

wednesday night ill be at parko and that mate.

[spiritualized]

To you patriot cocks, wait til you leave school and live a little. See if your blind patriotism sticks then

[spiritualized]

As for NHS waiting lists going up even further because of immigrants, your argument relies on every immigrant that comes here somehow needing an important operation

[BigDes_GY]

i would lik to emphasise the fact that all british citizens should feel pride in being british regardless of their roots.as has been stated before immigration isn't a matter of race directly but a matter of practicality. furthermore i hasten to add that the monarchy actually generates more money than it consumes and is a symbol of british heritage. also i don't pledge any allegiance to the government in general unless i agree with their policies but rather to the british way of life and our unwritten consitution.we do have a constitution by the way but rather than being written it is bound through precedent.that leads me to another point in that i disagree with the proposal of a written constitution as this would render it too rigid as reinforced by the fact that the american constitution has only been amended 17 times in its entire history.it would also cause further problems in that - who would construct it and how it would be amended etc etc etc.and for the record it is not blind partriotism that i advocate as that is bordering on dangerous but the belief that right wing politics(no that does not mean extreme although many liberals would have you believe that)is the most appropriate way for a country/nation to operate on.

cheers

[BigDes_GY]

in relation to skimmed milks signature - i may be mistaken but if that is supposed to be a criticism of patriotism and the so called nationalist disease of war then i think you may have taken the quote out of context.he is referring to the war on anything deemed unacceptable by the 'western liberal democracies' rather than war physical war against a nation or belief.forgive me if i am wrong but nobody has actually addressed any of my original points and offered a valid criticism.whether you agree with the sentiment or not it signifies the US's complacent view that they should operate as the 'world's policeman'.sorry to dissapoint you lads but your apparently liberal views also contain contradictions not only some of the less well thought out nationalist ones!

[robo-plegic wrong cock]

i hate niggers.
i hate kikes.
i hate pakis.
i hate commies.
i hate catholics.
i hate camp tv chefs.

ENGERRRRRLAND.

...fuck off.

[Walt Whitmans Niece]

Don_Revie,

This on going national pride saga has just become a silly game of intellectual ping pong and is now going nowhere. It's totally obvious where we both stand, and it's equally obvious that neither of us is going to change our minds. You believe that it's a (quote) "fact that all British citizens SHOULD feel pride in being British regardless of their roots". One look at the website that you are associated with, HERE, and it's easy to see what influences you. It is not a "fact" that we "should", be proud to be British, it is a matter for each individual to decide for themselves. And I excersise my democratic right, not to be proud of the label put on me at birth, for the reasons I have oulined clearly in various other posts.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand and/or accept?

Cheers Andy

[Jonny W.K]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Don_Revie:
Britain has given so much to the world.the bbc sets the standard and always has done for television, william caxton (the first to translate books into english),faraday (electrical generator/motor),watt and trevithick(steam engines)telford (roads),isambard kingdom brunel(needs no intro),bell(telephone,telegraphy)- the list is endless!. As for the comment about not being proud to be white, then a think it is sad when british citizens show a reluctance to show pride in their culture as long as you don't impede upon others.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

To highlight a few points, the first part of your statement is VERY arguable. To begin with the BBC, it is a private/public owned company and is not connected with our Government. Therefore, its FOUNDERS gave that Corporation to the world. It was their hard work/effort. NOT Britains. The same can be said for the rest of those people. Their achievements are their own. NOT Britains. Bell was not imbued with 'British Spirit' when he invented Telephone, he was just fucking smart/lucky.

And Secondly, What has being White got to do with being British? Fuck all. Dont know who this is aimed at, and it may have just been a poorly elaborated point on your part. If so, disregard this statement.

Please Note: Don_Revie's original statement has been edited by me, because it was fucking long

Also, Britain, England, or the UK has NO constitution. Unwritten Constitution=No Constitution. You cannot live by a written agreement, which is the whole Idea of a Constitution, that doesn't exist. We don't need one, because over 2000 years of Kings/Queens killing each other until it got boring have replaced it. The US needed one because otherwise they would be killing each other for prolly 1000's of years before a suitable state of existence would be achieved. This convinced them into complying with their President/Office, by being given rights as opposed to allowed freedoms (which we have, and can be taken away) and is more than likely the cause of their attitude towards the world they have today.

Next up, Ants. There is indeed a Wrestling Federation on Uk TV. It is EWC (not ECW) and is under contract with ITV, NOT BBC, to be shown on there network somewhere. This should appear on your TV's sometime in 2003 but cant give you a possible date on it.

Anyway, Im bored now. So are you. I only wrote this 'cause he said no-one commented on his post's (or some shit like that) There's alot more I could say, and I might another time.

And if you take my Signature seriously, then you've never read 'Cockney Wanker' in Viz...

[DJ-Ants]

I heard about the Itv wrestling thing...but the point is that the BBC should do it...they fucking take 100+quid of each household per year for a licence...so they should cater for us all.....


Im still waiting for their reply on the subject.....

I'll have you on telly yet Jonny....

[Jonny W.K]

And before anyone can say anything, I am 'happy' to be living in a 'economically advanced' country. As I would be in any other such country ie Australia, Japan etc. The only thing actually keeping me from going to other places to see the world, is the fact that I agree with Capitalism, and bought into it at an early age. I am now in debt upto my fucking eyeballs. Damn them all... Also my girl is here, but she'd prolly up and come with me anyway. Oh, and my mates, Dave and Toby.